Ron Paul Asks "Why Can't We Sue The TSA For Assault?"

Authored by Ron Paul via The Ron Paul Institute for Peace & Prosperity,

When I was in Congress and had to regularly fly between DC and Texas, I was routinely subjected to invasive “pat-downs” (physical assaults) by the Transportation Security Administration (TSA). One time, exasperated with the constant insults to my privacy and dignity, I asked a TSA agent if he was proud to assault innocent Americans for a living.

I thought of this incident after learning that the TSA has been compiling a “troublesome passengers” list. The list includes those who have engaged in conduct judged to be “offensive and without legal justification” or disruptive of the “safe and effective completion of screening.” Libertarian journalist James Bovard recently pointed out that any woman who pushed a screener’s hands away from her breasts could be accused of disrupting the “safe and effective completion of screening.” Passengers like me who have expressed offense at TSA screeners are likely on the troublesome passengers list.

Perhaps airline passengers should start keeping a list of troublesome TSA agents. The list could include those who forced nursing mothers to drink their own breast milk, those who forced sick passengers to dispose of cough medicine, and those who forced women they found attractive to go through a body scanner multiple times. The list would certainly include the agents who confiscated a wheelchair-bound three-year-old’s beloved stuffed lamb at an airport and threatened to subject her to a pat-down. The girl, who was at the airport with her family to take a trip to Disney World, was filmed crying that she no longer wanted to go to Disney World.

The TSA is effective at violating our liberty, but it is ineffective at protecting our security. Last year, the TSA’s parent agency, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), conducted undercover tests of the TSA’s ability or detect security threats at airports across the country. The results showed the TSA staff and equipment failed to uncover threats 80 percent of the time. This is not the first time the TSA has been revealed to be incompetent. An earlier DHS study fund TSA screenings and even the invasive pat-downs were utterly ineffective at finding hidden weapons.

The TSA’s “security theater” of treating every passenger as a criminal suspect while doing nothing to stop real threats is a rational response to the incentives the TSA faces as a government agency. If the TSA puts up an appearance of diligently working to prevent another 9/11 by inconveniencing and even assaulting as many travelers as possible, Congress will assume the agency is doing its job and keep increasing the TSA’s budget. Because the TSA gets its revenue from Congress, not from airline passengers, the agency has no reason to concern itself with customer satisfaction and feels free to harass and assault people, as well as to make lists of people who stand up for their rights.

Congress should end the TSA’s monopoly on security by abolishing the agency and returning responsibility for security to the airlines. The airline companies can contract with private firms that provide real security without treating every passenger as a criminal suspect. A private security firm that assaults its customers while failing to detect real dangers would soon go out of business, whereas the TSA would likely have its budget and power increased if there was another attack on the US.

If shutting down the TSA is too “radical” a step, Congress should at least allow individuals to sue TSA agents for assault. Anyone who has suffered unfair treatment by the TSA as a result of being put on the “troublesome passengers” list should also be able to seek redress in court. Making TSA agents subject to the rule of law is an important step toward protecting our liberty and security.


Billy the Poet HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:15 Permalink

It's the job of government to harass citizens while ensuring that terrorists are allowed to board aircraft unimpeded.

The State Department intentionally let the Underwear Bomber board Flight 253 despite warnings because they wanted to see what he would do.

"They had the individual under investigation and our revocation action would have disclosed the U.S. Government’s interest in the individual and ended our colleagues’ ability to quietly pursue the case and identify terrorists’ plans and co-conspirators."

Flight 253 Patrick F. Kennedy Testimony


And then there's this:


Flight 253 passenger Kurt Haskell: 'I was visited by the FBI'

Today is the second worst day of my life after 12-25-09. Today is the day that I realized that my own country is lying to me and all of my fellow Americans.…


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Tony 12-Letters Billy the Poet Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:36 Permalink

As long as I know Ron Paul is still wheezing and on the job, I don't even have to think about things like the TSA and their Nazi tactics. Ron's got it covered and something will be done about this N ... TSA heavy-handedness just as soon as he can convince Ron Jr. ... er, Rand to do something about it. God bless the Paul's - where would we be without them? They wake people up all the time. Why, just yesterday, I was in the D0llar General and I heard one of the stock-people talking about the prices always going up ... and I thought to myself, "This person has been listing to Ron Paul!"

Thanks, Ron!

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Tony 12-Letters Billy the Poet Mon, 06/18/2018 - 20:54 Permalink

I don't understand all this new terminology. I'm not sure I like this, being on the internet. I think I might go back to my TV and watching The Waltons re-runs. (say ... you don't suppose they kept that show on for almost ten years as a way of programming the masses to think of friendly poor people burdened by the trials of life every time they heard 'The Waltons' vs. some filthy rich family who make hundreds-of-thousands of d0llars per hour, essentially creating and maintaining the company store? Do you?)

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Tony 12-Letters Billy the Poet Mon, 06/18/2018 - 18:23 Permalink

Pshaw ... I think you're pulling my leg. I would never attempt such nonsense. I'm not involved with the government on any level. But remember when Ron Paul sat on the Committee on Financial Services and the Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology (of which he was Chairman) and the Subcommittee on International Monetary Policy and Trade? All those years? I always thought the Fed would eventually take control of not only our economy, but our government as well. NOT SO! Ron Paul beat them back at every meeting and every turn. Relentless. They're still trying to figure out how to get out of the box he stuffed them in. No doubt, after only 16 years as a congressman, he was within inches of disarming the Fed completely. If only that misguided run for president hadn't derailed his laser-like focus on the matter.

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Billy the Poet Tony 12-Letters Mon, 06/18/2018 - 19:52 Permalink

Yes, but the Fed was always a very weak institution with little backing from politicians. the military, corporations, academia, the media or anyone else. That's why it was so easy for Ron Paul to take them down singlehandedly.

So I still say that your achievements dwarf those of Dr. Paul. I know you're a humble man but you'd be doing me -- your biggest fan -- a big favor if you'd regale us with some stories of your greatest successes.

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Captain Nemo d… Billy the Poet Mon, 06/18/2018 - 20:54 Permalink

All he's saying is for Ron Paul to say "Congress should at least make a law ..." is somewhat funny because if for 16 years he could not get them to do it as an insider, what is the point of whining about it from the outside? If he were to organize some public action to pressure them into doing so, using his fame, it would be different. Otherwise anyone can write an article or give a speech filled with all the right noises.

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Billy the Poet Captain Nemo d… Mon, 06/18/2018 - 21:46 Permalink

If at first you don't succeed, give up, especially in really important matters?

Ron does what he does and he will do what he will do but I don't understand your apparent belief that politicians possess some special gravity or power which makes them more effective than other individuals. American history is filled with individuals who improved the lives of their fellow citizens without being members of the political class. So surely there must be life after congress.

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philosobilly Billy the Poet Mon, 06/18/2018 - 20:55 Permalink

f the haters bro. the pauls didnt invent liberty, they just are trying to get the general population conviced that this tyranny thing has happened repeatedly in human history, and everyone is historytarded so they got a up hill climb. they are the messengers. read lord acton, t jefferson, p henry, bestait, mises, e lee, and read the competion, communist manefesto, n pelosi, b obama, a hamilton, etc. tyranny has many flavors and the founding fathers argued about it in the federalist papers and landed on the great truth that no one wants to hear, the only thing i know for sure about telling you how to live your life is i have no idea what to tell you about how to live your life.

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Boxed Merlot HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:32 Permalink

...One for the untouchables...

And an elected official was not considered an "untouchable". I find a recent description of Mr. Paul as the best President of the USA we never had to be my go to description of this extremely relevant possessor and instigator of common sense observations, discussions and pointed commentary of our current dismal ability to protect, yet alone carry and advance the flame of liberty our "forefathers brought forth on this continent" in my lifetime.

I'll do what I can do instill the same in the grandsons following me.


(I'd say grand-daughters too, but at this time sons are what my kids have provided)

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MadHatt Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:10 Permalink

When you go through an airport, opt out of the scanner and ask for the pat down.

When they start doing the frisk, tell the person doing it "When you touch my crotch, you have to make eye contact with me, or I just wont be able to finish."


The search is surprisingly fast that way.

MadHatt Parrotile Mon, 06/18/2018 - 20:59 Permalink

While not all have a TSA, every airport will send you through a security check point where you are searched. Even when flying domestically. 

I was once held back because and questioned because of a bad attitude.

Stopped by the person scanning my bag, they noticed I had about 20lbs of silver with me. They asked why I have it, I asked if it was illegal. They asked if I made it, I said "Ya, I'm an alchemist, this use to be a toaster, what are you fuckin' retarded?"

Every time I go, there is something new to learn. 

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E.F. Mutton Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:11 Permalink

If I ever lose it and end up on the evening news, it will most likely be because Shaniqua from TSA pushed the wrong fucking button.  I've come close twice now.

Actual quotes I have heard:

"Harry it up yo" - Helpful instructions from a Professional TSA Agent

"Yo, yo, yo, check it!" - TSA Professional highlighting an anomaly in the X Ray screen.

chubbar Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:14 Permalink

The fucking dolts in this world are too fucking stupid to figure out that 9/11, the instigating incident that forced this obscenity upon us,  was an inside job. This whole farce is nothing more than stealing our rights and liberties along with a massive jobs program.

serotonindumptruck chubbar Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:25 Permalink

The inside job of 9/11 is one of the main reasons why I don't go to bars or attend large social gatherings anymore.

Wanna start a fight or a brawl?

Just say out loud what you just posted to a roomful of drunken revelers.

Be sure to throw in the fact that Osama bin Laden died in 2002 of kidney failure, and that the Navy Seals never killed him.

It'll be on like Donkey Kong.

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rejected serotonindumptruck Mon, 06/18/2018 - 18:21 Permalink

I actually had a co-worker turn red in the face and called me a traitor for saying WTC 7 had imploded. According to him it never happened. Now we worked a high tech job so this guy wasn't stupid,,, simply totally brainwashed. 

And he refused to even investigate it.

70% of America are completely brainwashed, 20% work for government and could care less, 9% are just plain retarded. 

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SearDoc Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:19 Permalink

I was recently subjected to a "pat down" on the basis of an "anomaly" on the naked-body scanner. Never realized how invasive it was. Fingers all in the front of my waistband. Across from hip to hip brushing across my penis three times. Full butt check from the back including the crack (over the pants). Then each groin checked first from the front and then from the back. Wanted to mash the guy in the face but realized I wouldn't make the flight then.

Didn't realize that it had gotten this bad.

It seemed like an exercise in testing how tolerant you were.

HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 SearDoc Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:48 Permalink

That is disgusting. How many groins do you have? Each groin checked?

I refuse to fly and be subjected to this crap. I live close enough to a border that I can fly from Canada. I grew up flying. It's insane that Americans think this is okay. Don't let anyone touch your privates, unless they are from the government! I really don't understand why people tolerate D-grade government morons treating them as criminals.

The thing is, you know a normal person doesn't want this type of job. The only people that get this job are the people that enjoy groping strangers or or those which have no empathy or capacity to relate to people as human beings. "Just following orders" types comes to mind.

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Froman Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:21 Permalink

Abolish the TSA immediately.  Trained chimps could do a more effective job at protecting us.  TSA in no way, shape, or form protects passenger security.  They never have.  The same type of attack that happened on 9/11 would not currently work and it has nothing to do with TSA or their policies.  The airlines have put numerous procedures in place and trained their staff to prevent passengers from getting into the cockpit during flight and commandeering a plane.  Let people go back to walking through metal detectors like everyone used to do.  TSA was a knee jerk reaction by the Bush Administration (the same Bush that started the war in Iraq based on phantom WMDs) that was ill conceived at inception.  Now it has morphed into a revenue raising program (pre-check) and a union run Federal jobs program that hires some of the most incompetent Federal employees I have ever had the experience of dealing with only to be outperformed in their incompetence by the employees of the Internal Revenue Service. 

HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Froman Mon, 06/18/2018 - 17:43 Permalink

I have been saying that for years. The TSA is a jobs program for morons that wouldn't qualify to be a security guard at the local mall.

How many times have they failed to detect dangerous items when being audited? 95% of the time they fail.

If there is an attack on a plane or one is blown up, the first place I would look is at some type of conspiracy between current TSA and airport employees! Everyone knows that airport employees are the ones with access to supposedly secure areas. Anyone that thinks those areas are secure is an idiot! Those employees are not subjected to the same procedures as passengers. Why not?

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swmnguy HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Mon, 06/18/2018 - 20:21 Permalink

You mention that the TSA misses 19 out of 20 items sent through by their own trainers.  Most people find that alarming.  I don't.  I fly kind of a lot for work.  The kinds of threats the TSA is supposed to detect haven't come to fruition since 9/11/01, nearly 17 years ago now.

Since the TSA can't find anything, and nothing has happened, that indicates that there really aren't any such threats.  I find that very comforting.

The thing about the liquid explosives?  Some scientists in England put that to the test and found it actually would be possible to bring down an airplane with liquid explosives.  Except you'd need to have at least a suitcase full of lab equipment, hole up in an airplane bathroom for 5 or 6 hours cooking the stuff down, and by the time you had something, you'd have passed out from the fumes long before.  Again, reassuring.

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