In Gold and Bitcoin We Trust? Goldnomics Podcast with Ronald-Peter Stoeferle

In Gold, Silver and Bitcoin We Trust? Goldnomics Podcast (Episode 5) interview with Ronald-Peter Stoferle

We interview our friend Ronald-Peter Stoeferle, partner in Incrementum in Liechtenstein and author of the must read, annual gold report 'In Gold We Trust' in this the fifth episode of the Goldnomics Podcast.

There are 3 key “tides of change” that Ronni has analysed and he warns that the "liquidity party" of the last 10 years is coming to an end and this will impact stocks, bonds, property, bitcoin and gold in the coming years.

Stephen Flood, CEO of GoldCore and Research Director and respected precious metals commentator Mark O'Byrne are once again joined by Dave Russell to discuss with Ronni the tides of change, the negative effects of quantitative tightening (QT) and what this will mean for the markets and asset classes including gold, silver and bitcoin.

 

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Topics covered in this episode of The Goldnomics Podcast are

- Have we expected too much of gold over the past few years?
- What will be the catalyst which changes sentiment towards gold?
- While it is relatively cheap - Is this the perfect time to buy gold?
- Why is Bitcoin stealing gold’s lustre?
- What is the best way to own and hold gold to hedge and protect your portfolio?
- What is the best allocation to gold for your portfolio?
- Why will 99% of crypto-currencies fail over the next few years?
- What effect will China have on the dollar and on the gold price?

Listen to the full episode or skip directly to one of the following discussion points

1:11 Introducing our special guest Ronald Peter Stoferle of Incrementum and author of the respected “In Gold We Trust” report
2:26 The 3 tides of change that we are seeing in financial markets
3:07 The Monetary Policy Tide – The end of the party
3:58 The deflationary effect of the monetary policy changes
4:40 Why quantitive tightening will have negative effects for asset values
4.59 The second tide - The De-Dollarization the financial markets
6:08 The Crypto-currency Tide
9:02 The monetary policy versus the monetary order and the elephant in the room
9:50 The flip side of “The Everything Bubble”
10:45 The monetary order
11:30 The only way to get ourselves out of our current economic and financial problem
11:50 The “Pandora’s Box” of liquidity
12:35 Some people are not seeing the benefit of “The Everything Bubble”
13:25 Gold will protect the investor from what is to come
14:55 How the monetary tide will affect the gold price
15:45 Are we expecting too much from gold at the moment?
17:25 When the headwind from asset markets become a tailwind, gold benefits
18:00 Why the current correlation between equities and bonds could be positive for gold when the tides turn
20:20 What allocation to gold is recommended in these markets?
22:20 “Nobody cares about gold at the moment…… that’s why you should have a close look at gold”
23:15 The collapse in Google searches for “Buy gold” versus “Buy Bitcoin”, shows the sentiment is negative towards gold
24:30 No strong opinion from analysts on gold versus 2008, and why this is a positive indicator for gold
26:30 Is currency competition a good thing for the market?
27:45 Why 99% of cryptocurrencies are bogus and will be wiped out in the next few years
28:45 The need for efficient payment technology and how we’ve lost faith in government money
29:45 How central bankers are acting like taxmen and abused their position
31:30 The Gold/Crypto cross-over and what that might mean for the future of money
31:50 The best way to own and hold gold – a gold ETF in a big Wall Street bank – REALLY??
32:30 The only way to hold gold for insurance and hedging purposes
33:10 The important considerations when choosing how you own and hold gold
34:30 Crypto bullion and asset backed cryptos will do well in the future
34:45 Why the notion that Bitcoin is a store of value has yet to be proven
37:15 Remimbi backed oil contracts what effect will this have on for the future? Are they moving in to reserve currency status?
38:30 The dying petro-dollar versus a rising Remimbi all part of the de-dollarization of world markets.
40:00 The flow of gold from East to West, what does this mean?
41:05 Are the rising geopolitical tensions a result of the fundamental flaws of our currency system?
41:45 Can we trace the route of our currency problems back to 1971 and the actions of Richard Nixon?

You can download the “In Gold We Trust” report here:

https://news.goldcore.com/us/gold-blog/in-gold-we-trust-3-important-fac…

 

Or you can follow them on Twitter here: https://twitter.com/IGWTreport

 

People mentioned in this podcast

Ronald-Peter Stoeferle - https://twitter.com/RonStoeferle

Mark Valek – Co-Author of “In Gold We Trust” - https://twitter.com/MarkValek

Adrian Day - www.adriandayassetmanagement.com/

Friedrich von Hayek - https://twitter.com/FriedrichHayek

Website Mentioned in this video: www.goldcore.com

 

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News and Commentary

Russian central bank diversifies holdings amid geopolitical risks (Reuters.com)

Hedge-fund boss who predicted ‘87 crash says next recession will be ‘really frightening’ (MarketWatch.com)

Asian markets rebound on bargain-hunting, shrug off trade war threats (Reuters.com)

Trump determined to hit China as tit-for-tat tariff war erupts (Reuters.com)

South Korea lobbies India to relax gold import restrictions (MiningWeekly.com)

Gold Glitters on Inflation Fears and U.S. Budget Imbalance (GoldSeek.com)

Gold Street Is Where South Africa’s Mining History Goes to Die (Bloomberg.com)

Fiat Currency Always Ends In Collapse (ZeroHedge.com)

Ike Was Right About the MI Complex (BonnerAndPartners.com)

Failed States: Hopeless European Millennials And The Populist Takeover (DollarCollapse.com)

World Cup Kaliningrad mines 'Baltic gold'... and 'digital gold' (FT.com)

Gold Prices (LBMA AM)

19 Jun: USD 1,279.00, GBP 971.14 & EUR 1,108.89 per ounce
18 Jun: USD 1,281.25, GBP 966.96 & EUR 1,103.93 per ounce
15 Jun: USD 1,300.10, GBP 978.98 & EUR 1,120.04 per ounce
14 Jun: USD 1,305.30, GBP 971.27 & EUR 1,103.89 per ounce
13 Jun: USD 1,294.40, GBP 971.58 & EUR 1,101.92 per ounce
12 Jun: USD 1,298.30, GBP 968.27 & EUR 1,100.44 per ounce
11 Jun: USD 1,296.05, GBP 969.32 & EUR 1,099.57 per ounce

Silver Prices (LBMA)

19 Jun: USD 16.36, GBP 12.42 & EUR 14.16 per ounce
18 Jun: USD 16.61, GBP 12.53 & EUR 14.29 per ounce
15 Jun: USD 17.23, GBP 12.96 & EUR 14.86 per ounce
14 Jun: USD 17.12, GBP 12.75 & EUR 14.48 per ounce
13 Jun: USD 16.91, GBP 12.68 & EUR 14.37 per ounce
12 Jun: USD 16.85, GBP 12.58 & EUR 14.30 per ounce
11 Jun: USD 16.76, GBP 12.55 & EUR 14.23 per ounce


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Comments

Coinista Wed, 06/20/2018 - 09:09 Permalink

No, just Bitcoin We Trust, jealous, loser, anti-science, no-coiners.  Pet rocks are for old-farts laying in their death-beds, barely able to muster enough energy to type on the keyboard.  How did the last 8 years of "returns" with pet rocks do for ya, jealous loser no-coiners?

BUY BITCOIN!!! Losers.

Quantify Coinista Wed, 06/20/2018 - 09:24 Permalink

None of the crypto currencies are actual currencies, you cannot pay for anything with them. They are just speculative commodities with zero real value. You are trying to sell magic beans that won't grow a bean stock unless everyone keeps buying your beans. And the last guy with the most beans gets screwed...lol. Further your beans can and have been stolen....lol.

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MadHatt Dirty Bumn Wed, 06/20/2018 - 11:53 Permalink

This is a really stupid statement. 

I've purchased quite a few things with bitcoins, from 3D printers to body armor to gold and silver. What you meant to say is YOU cant figure out how to buy things with them. YOU don't want them. YOU didn't do any research.

Keep assuming whatever you want... it'll work out great for you.

Maybe try having a conversation on the internet like an adult? Just because you don't understand doesn't mean others are wrong.

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rphb Coinista Wed, 06/20/2018 - 16:07 Permalink

Trusting Bitcoin is for FOOLS. It is a pyramid schemes, in case ye didn't know. The only way it can ever even beat its december highs are if an even bigger batch of suckers gets lured into it. There is no natural demand, because it have no actual uses. Literal horseshit is a better investment then Bitcoin, because we can actually use that to grow stuff.

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DarkPurpleHaze Wed, 06/20/2018 - 09:45 Permalink

Have these people not heard of a revolutionary new monetary system that allows you to trade in your phyz gold and silver for...(wait for it...)...tokens?!?!

Yep, freshly imagined crypto-currency tokens in lieu of your phyz gold or silver.

And in the process (you) could help billions worldwide! Yep, billions!

 

Six QQQuestions at link/comments.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-15/eric-sprott-discusses-rate-hi…

Snaffew Wed, 06/20/2018 - 12:54 Permalink

Based on M1 money supply, in 1980 gold was valued at $400/oz, it hit $800/oz on the overreaction.  today, based on M1 money supply, gold is valued at $13,600 and silver at $160/oz.  Can you imagine if parity is reached and there is the accompanying overreaction?  Gold and silver would look like Bitcoin and ethereum during their peaks.Mining stocks would be the next amzn's and nflx's.