Johnstone: "Anyone Promoting Regime Change In Iran Is An Evil Piece Of Shit"

Authored by Caitlin Johnstone via,

I have been saying all year that the 8chan phenomenon known as “QAnon” is bogus, and as time has gone on the evidence has become overwhelming that it is an establishment psyop designed to herd the populist right into accepting the narratives and agendas of the establishment orthodoxy. Whether they’re claiming that every capitulation the Trump administration makes to longstanding neoconservative agendas is actually brilliant 4-D chess strategy, or saying that Julian Assange isn’t really trapped in the Ecuadorian embassy, QAnon enthusiasts are constantly regurgitating talking points which just so happen to fit in very conveniently with the interests of America’s defense and intelligence agencies.

A recent “Q drop” (a fancy name for an anonymous user posting text onto a popular internet troll message board with zero accountability) makes this more abundantly clear than ever, with text reading as follows:

Free Iran!!!
Regime change.
People have the power.
We stand with you.

Once you’re cheering for a longtime neoconservative agenda to be accomplished in one of George W Bush’s “Axis of Evil” countries, you are cheering for the establishment. Or, to put it more clearly to Q followers, you are cheering for the deep state.

So now you have conspiracy-minded populist right wingers being manipulated into supporting the same standard Bush administration globalist agendas that Alex Jones built his career on attacking. The support for regime change interventionism in Iran isn’t limited to the QAnon crowd, having now gone fully mainstream throughout Trump’s base, and I’d like to address a few of the arguments here that they have been bringing to me:

“Iran is nowhere near the same thing as Iraq, Libya or Syria!”

Please go look at a globe and think a little harder about your position here. Iran is a target for regime change for the exact same reasons its neighbors Iraq and Syria have been; it occupies and extremely strategically significant location in an oil-rich region that the US-centralized empire wants full control of. Thinking this one is different because its government isn’t secular is the product of many years of Islamophobic propaganda; the plutocrats and their allied intelligence and defense agencies don’t care what religion sits on top of their oil, and Saudi Arabia proves it. Any argument made against Iranian theocracy could be made even more strongly against KSA theocracy, but you don’t see Sean Hannity advocating the overthrow of the Saudi royals, do you?

“But this regime change intervention would be completely different!”

No it wouldn’t. There has never been a US-led regime change intervention in the Middle East that wasn’t disastrous. Cheering for regime change interventionism in Iran is cheering for all the destabilization, chaos, terror, death, rape and slavery that always necessarily comes with such interventions. Wanting to inflict that upon the world is monstrous.

“This is different, though! This one is led by Trump! Look at all that he’s accomplished in North Korea!”

Okay, three things:

1. All that Trump has done with North Korea is take the very first step in the most rudimentary beginnings of peace talks. I fully support him in taking that step, but you can’t legitimately treat it as an “accomplishment” which proves that he is a strategic genius capable of facilitating the impossible task of non-disastrous regime change in Iran.

2. Even if Trump does help bring abiding peace to the Korean Peninsula, it won’t legitimize regime change interventionism in Iran. Hell, even if Trump gets North Korea to denuclearize (and he won’t), it still wouldn’t legitimize regime change interventionism in Iran. US-led regime change interventionism is always disastrous, especially in the easily destabilized geopolitical region of the Middle East.

3. Neocons are always wrong about foreign policy. Always. There’s no reason to believe Trump spearheading a longstanding neocon agenda would work out any better than Bush or any other neocon.

“Well what about the Iranians in Iran who want regime change?”

What about them? The fact that some Iranians want their government changed has nothing to do with you or your government. The Fox News and Washington Post pundits who keep pointing out the fact that Iran, like America, contains people who are unhappy with its current system of government are only ever trying to galvanize the west against Tehran. There’s no good reason for you to be acting as a pro bono CIA propagandist running around telling westerners how great it would be if the Mullahs were gone.

“Well I don’t want the US to intervene, I just want the Iranians to free themselves!”

Two things:

1. This administration is already currently engaged in regime change interventionism in Iran in the form of escalated CIA covert operations and harsh economic sanctions, and its involvement with Iranian terror cult MEKsuggests it may run far deeper than that in a similar way to US involvement with extremist groups in Syria, Libya and Ukraine.

2. Why say anything, then? Ever stop to ask yourself why you’re always cheering for Iranians to overthrow their government? Why constantly cheerlead for something which requires zero western involvement? Whom does that help? Do you think Iranians don’t already know that America hates their government?

All you’re doing is helping to signal boost the pro-regime change propaganda that US defense and intelligence agencies have been seeding into American public consciousness for many years. Your “Yay, free Iran!” sentiments aren’t helping Iranians, they’re helping the western propagandists target western audiences. You’re just helping the public get more okay with any actions taken against the Iranian government, in exactly the same way Russiagaters help manufacture support for escalations against Russia.

Come on, people. Think harder. This one isn’t difficult. It’s not a random coincidence that you’re all being paced into supporting regime change in the final target named seventeen years ago in General Wesley Clark’s famous “seven countries in five years” list of neocon regime change agendas. The only thing that has changed is the face on the agenda.

Iran is not different from the other regime change targets of Iraq, Libya or Syria. Barack Obama served George W Bush’s third and fourth terms, and Donald Trump is serving his fifth. They were strong-armed in different ways by America’s unelected power establishment into advancing different regime change agendas depending on where their political support came from and public sentiment at the time, but it’s all been pointed at the exact same region for the exact same reasons.

Leave Iran alone. Leave the Iranian people alone. There is no legitimate reason for you to be cheering for regime change in Iran, and anyone who tells you otherwise is an evil piece of shit. Reject them.

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wadalt Sat, 06/23/2018 - 22:31 Permalink


"Anyone Promoting Regime Change In Iran Is An Evil Piece Of Shit"

Apartheid Israhell is the BIGGEST Evil Piece Of Shit promoting "regime change" in Iran.

It has NOTHING to do with Iran being in a strategic location. It's all about Israhell's expansion plan and eliminating those they arbitrarily deem "enemies".


JOIN the US Army and DIE for the FAKE HEBREWS.


JimmyJones wadalt Sat, 06/23/2018 - 22:34 Permalink

Why does it appear N.Korea a axis of evil member is actually looking like it's going to have a peaceful transition? I do not believe the Neo-cons are in control or at least not fully. It looks like they are down to their Leftist members now.

My gut feeling is Iran already has at least one Nuke and has had one for some time now. That is why they were not actually attacked. If not that then the ability to shut down the flow of oil through the straights is the real unchanging deterrent. That's probably more destructive than a nuke.

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bigdumbnugly JimmyJones Sat, 06/23/2018 - 22:47 Permalink

why would this writer not understand that there is/was probably a legit Q and one taken over here and maybe occasionally elsewhere by the deep state?


it doesn't mean it was always a psy-op or always will be hijacked by one.


is it that hard for a person has to use some logic and common sense to know something isn't always this or always that based on its current state or by evaluating a too small sample size?  

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powow bigdumbnugly Sat, 06/23/2018 - 22:48 Permalink

Reality check.

- Deep State is really Jewish. Why? Follow the money. They control the Federal Reserve.

- Neocon is code for Jews or Israel.

- Natanyahoo went to the UN and the US Congress promoting the destruction of Iran.

- Israel did 9/11 which allowed the launching of war after war to destroy its perceived enemies and remake the region to its liking.


Get rid of Israel tomorrow, and all this shit stops.


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FBaggins August Sun, 06/24/2018 - 02:01 Permalink

The issue is Q. Great post. Been telling my wife since Corsi and Q hit Infowars that Cosi, Q, and Infowars are FOS and CIA.

The US intelligence community does not control just the MSM. They monitor every site, including us, and when an alternate media site starts getting effective with too much truth on US crimes they either start buggering around with the site or with the people who run it.

Most of the CIA-NSA perception management is deflection, like creating or blowing up bullshit issues which turn out to be nothing burgers. How many people have heard in the childish coded Q messages that the DOJ was charging tens of thousands of people in high places with pedophilia? All bullshit. 

It is was obvious to many from the start that that all the Comey, Mueller, Trump-Russia collusion was bullshit, but it served a number of interests, not only the continued vilification of Russia, but also served to focus and polarize public attention on domestic, post-election, controllable soap-opera Washing intrigue, rather than on the shit the US is pulling off around the world. Breitbart is a CIA-Zio site with numerous posting about meaningless domestic shit and not a peep about Bloody Monday or the recent US attacks in Syria. 

I agree that Trump was the better choice of evils between him and Hillary, but I also believe there was more CIA-NSA rigging of the election for Trump. What has been going on internally is a battle between deep-state globalists and deep-state neocons. The majority made up of mostly decent people with moral limits have no real power and are ruled and manipulated by nothing but shit asses. 

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D503 el buitre Sun, 06/24/2018 - 11:13 Permalink

The question concerning "Q" is one merely of moving the goalposts.

If every revolutionary movement is contorted into merely a sock puppet of "TPTB," then no change can ever occur. 

Let's say "Q" is a function of the "Deep State."

Is the concept provided by "Qanon" of undermining the mainstream narrative preferable to the endless "racist, sexist, Nazi, open borders etc?"

Would you prefer a society of objective skeptics (including those who doubt "Q") to the mindless acceptance of the offended by everything SJW nature of today?

Which is more important:

The cultivation of individual knowledge and agency that undermines top down authoritarian rule that the "Q larp" promotes,

Or maintaining the even more exaggerated larp that is the MSM?

I would rather undermine the demonstrably falsifiable MSM manipulation of cognitive bias, and the intentional divide and conquer strategies it employs (feminism, black lives matter, school shootings, "terrorist attacks," transgender debate, bathrooms, police "brutality," etc etc) by promoting anything that calls it into question.

There is no debate, here anyway, that MSM news is complete trash meant to gin up discontent and continue ideological tribal boundaries. Fox News needs CNN, and vice versa, to promote their half headed agenda. 

The "Right" needs the "Left" to hate, and politicians have been playing this for decades; just as "journalists" stick to the same emotionally engaging stories about "rape," and "racism," and "crime."

Who honestly cares if Q is a complete fake? It is indicative of the public's growing disgust for the MSM diet of daily bullshit. That is the effect I seek. I'll take it any way it comes. 

Long Live the Objective Skeptic. Long Live the Elenchus. Power to the Individual and Death to the Manipulators among us.


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beemasters FBaggins Sun, 06/24/2018 - 05:43 Permalink

The problem is he has garnered a number of faithful followers...and made them think Trump is their savior. This was done by slowly reeling them in with "insider" leaks (which could be proven true later), building up trust that he/she was on the good side....planting some ideas along the way. It was a slow process, but very effective nonetheless.

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doctor10 FBaggins Sun, 06/24/2018 - 06:55 Permalink

As long as oil and natural gas remain foundational elements of the world economy, it is in the best interests of the world that the USA  supervise the trading and distribution. No other organization has the capacity to do so efficiently and peacefully. Ultimately a coalition of all world oil and gas producers will be led by the USA. The success of which ultimately is predicated upon being able to share-and control- the "exorbitant privilege" of the USD with said producers, presently enjoyed solely by the US Congress and

Many foreign elements not wanting to see that happen contribute to the chaos seen here within the USA the last 17 years, and abroad , particularly in Europe presently.

None of you all or me want to experience the failure.  I've personally seen enough in this world to know that "failure is not an option" here.

If Q helps make all that happen..more power to Q NSA, CIA USA USA USA!!!

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TahoeBilly2012 doctor10 Sun, 06/24/2018 - 10:54 Permalink

Article makes me think, yea I have become a Q tard, I admit. I also see things still pulling toward's Q's agenda, so I am in wait and see mode. The author here is just sure Q's agenda is 100% fake, nothing to suggest that YET.

5:5 is suggested Hillary video (harming children?). He just mentioned it's release again. Is it bullshit? It certainly could be, we shall see.

Q has called the peace in NorKo perfectly and it does feel as though this wasn't supposed to happen, feels surreal. Time will tell and soon what to expect from Q's agenda.

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FBaggins doctor10 Sun, 06/24/2018 - 11:14 Permalink

Dear doctor 10, for people like you it appears that there are no moral or legal limits in either foreign or domestic relations likely because you have already sold out to your hallowed officialdom, or chain of command. But, nevertheless, notice how you had to come up with some moral-sounding bullshit reason to justify all the bribery, blackmail, assassinations, terrorism, insurgencies, and the killing of millions of innocent people in your unjust wars for oil and the ponzi, protection-racket petrodollar. The justification is simply that "it is in the best of the world that the USA supervise"

Alan Greenspan's moral justification for the Iraq war was that Americans invaded Iraq for the oil "because we needed it" and therefore Americans should be proud of it.  Your justification for invading Iran is even more imperious. It is not just for the "best interests" of Americans, but for the entire world. Any nation which does not privatize its oil to our multinationals and does not trade it in US petrodollars, or outside of the control of the US-protected oil and gas cartel simply must be destroyed, because "we are Americans and we know best". That is as far as your justification goes. Pure jingoism.

CIA Qanon is essentially saying, "We have to bomb and invade Iran because the people are oppressed." Well maybe the rest of the world should bomb and invade the USA because from the outside the people there also look quite oppressed and depressed especially by all the trillions of debt and all of the CIA bullshit. 

The ruling class in and over your nation, including the intelligence community and the military, is extremely arrogant, pushy and criminal. It walks over everyone's faces, even its own citizens who are routinely monitored, manipulated and screwed. They are a sick lot of amoral bastards who have gained their power by being that way. It is said that the CIA and the mafia are two sides of the same coin. When it comes to the global, illegal-drug trade they (the CIA-USA rah, rah,) do "supervise the trading and distribution" of the shit, plus its production and they also scoop up most of the profits. The war on drugs was only a war to stomp out the competition. That is only one small example of how dirty the elites really are and it goes way beyond drugs.  

You have a crime syndicate running your financial system, your multinationals, you intelligence communities, and your nation, where no one gets to a position of any real power unless they have sold out and are completely controlled.

Criminal minds are sometimes sophisticated but generally they use crude and primitive means for short-sighted ends, wanting some kind of immediate return or gratification for their efforts. The world is marching closer and closer to third world war which is being perpetrated by this criminal ruling echelon, all reinforcing one another in their corrupt, short-sighted, "me-first" rationalizations. 

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el buitre Herodotus Sun, 06/24/2018 - 09:49 Permalink

Actually, the Jewish community in Iran is doing very well and has no desire to leave.  But obviously they have no strangle hold on political or media power, and Iran is one of the three countries on the planet which does not have a Rothschild controlled central bank.  Putin has pulled some teeth of his Rothschild controlled central bank, but not all by a long shot.  Research it for yourself.

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SocratesSolutions powow Sun, 06/24/2018 - 00:23 Permalink

This is all exactly right. The only question is, how do you get rid of a false bandit nation, based on a Satanic religion? For that is what Judaism really is, and always was. I give you the quote from the late and honest Jew, Harold Wallace Rosenthal: "Most Jews do not like to admit it but out chosen God is Lucifer... and we are his chosen people..." 

Doesn't get any plainer than the hooked nose on your straight face. Gee, that sounds very similar to what Jesus said about the Satanic Jews a few thousand years ago, before they had him killed. But you can never kill an idea. Especially one whose time has come.  

So the same problem is upon the World Stage, now come to a complete head. Time to pop the pimple of Satanic Judaism which has morphed into outright evil Zionism. Yes sir. How do you do it? 

By the coming in of an unconscious archetype—by the coming in of the idea of our age. That is how. This is already underway. It has been coming in strong now for over twenty years. You've been seeing it even in Hollywood Judaic movies, but you just don't know it yet. In the end, Judaism will be burned down to the ground. And from this burning down will arise the freed people of a New Religion which has rejoined humanity. In order for the world to survive, there must be an awakening. And with this awakening, an accompanying World Law. The awakening, is the mystery of life revealed. The World Law which accompanies this dredged up archetype is: The Protection of Children. 

That's all children. Every single one. Of every race. Of every religion. This is where it was always going. When this is over, not a single child will ever be molested or trafficked. Not a single child will ever be exposed to the horrors of war. The time has come for humanity to grow up. You bet your life. 

And so, for this to all come about, which is already well underway, the Satanic Jewish religion in particular (though the same must happen to various degrees to all religions) will be burned down to the ground, in order to rise again in civility and sanity with the world. 

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One of these i… oncemore1 Mon, 06/25/2018 - 17:33 Permalink

And you didn't drop a U235 device on the japs then?

I'm going to (it's a very rare thing for me) upvote myself just to cancel out the inanity of your downvote, which in no way reduces the validity of my asessment that they will have made as much basic fissionable material as they could possibly want by now for a substantial nuclear force. I doubt they will exactly replicate the US's early designs, given taht they have 60 years of advanced technology and processes to draw from as furnished by mr Khan. Some polish bloke in the 70's IIRC designed a weapon that could use tiny amounts of enriched u235 (200 grams) to make a 2kiloton device. Don't forget that publically accessible nuclear weapons information is slanted to obscure as much as to inform.. If you want to know about this stuff properly, switch off the TV and network with real people and do your own research...

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Jack Oliver JimmyJones Sun, 06/24/2018 - 00:40 Permalink

It’s the Zio/NeoCons and they are in full FUCKING control of US ‘foreign policy’ !!! 

Those that believe otherwise are imbeciles ! 

As FUCKING always - the US election was rigged !! 

Trump was ‘placed’ there because his election promises gained him enormous popularity - which was ‘perfect’ for the Deep State !! 

That ‘populism’ would  lead you down the ‘Garden Path’!!!

The SAME Garden Path !!! 

Same FUCKING Gardeners !! 



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keep the basta… JimmyJones Sun, 06/24/2018 - 04:50 Permalink

NK was never an axis of evil tho it did not have a central bank like Iraq Syria etc.

it was just called that.  With USA occupation still in SK with the new govt iSK still could not prevent the THAAD missiles being installed.

When the USA could afford to run wars across the globe and got sufficient output in economics it was ok seemingly.

 NK has been truly aware it was on the list since 9/11 for “regime” change and rightfully terrified since Libya. So it has nukes. It has to defend itself, even at dreadful cost to the people. Better than slave markets as in Libya today. Most countries want to feed their people and kids. Have bridges and hospitals. Not fight anyone.

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Scipio Africanuz JimmyJones Sun, 06/24/2018 - 06:25 Permalink

Trump will either surprise us pleasantly or unpleasantly with regards to Iran. The critical issue is whether it's preferable to do business, lucrative business, with Iran or not.

In trading markets, I learned a very valuable tactic of capital preservation thus: If a position is not working out as expected, or is costing me coin, or capital stagnation, then the onus was on me to close out that position, and redeploy my capital.

Corollary to the above, was to predetermine my pain threshold, and get out of a pain causing position when it's breached, that's called a "stop loss". Another trick I learned, is something called periodic portfolio rebalancing.

Why the long story? Because governance, is essentially like trading, you have assets, you have costs, you're trying to maximise benefits, while minimising costs. When things skew too much in the direction of costs, you bleed capital, and if you've deployed leverage (debt), you're likely to get a "margin call", the dread of every leveraged trader.

Now, applied to Iran, why should the USA not do business with Iran, just to please not-israel, or Adelson, or some doofus neocons? Zero reason!

Looked at objectively, if Iran were a stock, it's fundamentals and upside potential, sans sactions, make it a profitable play so why the counterproductive sanctions when we should be jumping in bed with them, for the benefit of the American economy, and the American worker.

If we can do business with the house of Saud, we certainly should do business with the Persians! To hell with economic saboteurs, let's go make some legitimate coin in Tehran!...

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