US Senate Bans Sale Of F-35s To Turkey: Dealing With An Unreliable Partner

Authored by Peter Korzun via The Strategic Culture Foundation,

On June 19, the Senate passed a draft defense bill for FY 2019 that would halt the transfer of F-35 Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) aircraft to Turkey, until the secretary of state certifies that Turkey will not accept deliveries of Russian S-400 Triumf air-defense systems. It paves the way for Ankara’s expulsion from the program if it does not bow to this pressure. The support for the measure (85-10) is too strong to be overridden.

Turkey has been one of six major partner nations in the JSF project since 2002. It is responsible for the production of certain components and for providing maintenance services in Europe to other operators of the aircraft. About a dozen Turkish companies are involved in the manufacturing, in accordance with the deal that was reached 16 years ago (2002). Ankara has placed an order to buy more than 100 F-35A Lightning IIs. It has already paid $800 million, so any restrictions that are imposed now will be an illegal breach of obligations by the US.

On June 21, the Senate Appropriations Committee added an amendment to the foreign-aid bill that would put a stop to future deliveries, if Ankara does not cancel the S-400 deal already concluded with Moscow. One of the arguments for blocking the F-35 transfer is the fear that Russia would get access to the JSF, enabling Moscow to detect and exploit its vulnerabilities. It would learn how the S-400 could take out an F-35.

The House version contains even more limits on arms transfers to Turkey. In May, the bill passed the House with a provision mandating a temporary hold on all major defense sales to Turkey, including F-35s, due in part to its impending purchase of the S-400. Almaz-Antey, the company that manufactures the Triumf, is on a State Department list of banned entities. Any deal with that firm could result in sanctions. Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.) has introduced an amendment to the FY 2019 Defense Appropriations bill (H.R. 6157) that would bar the planned transfer of the aircraft to Turkey. So, there may be some changes to the wording but that won’t significantly alter the final result — the F-35 transfer will remain blocked after the reconciliation process.

The bill is expected to become law this summer. The administration will have no choice but to exclude Turkey from the F-35 program, to remove any parts of the plane produced in that country, and to ban the Turkish F-35s from leaving the territory of the United States.

Despite the proceedings on Capitol Hill, officials from the government and Lockheed Martin held a ceremony on June 21 in Fort Worth, Texas, to mark the “roll out” of the first F-35A Lightning II jet under its Turkish program. It was an imposing ceremony, but it disguised some sleight of hand. The US government will retain custody of the aircraft while the Turkish pilots and service technicians are undergoing training at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. This is a long process that will take several years, but the bill will become law soon. Turkey may be denied access to the cloud-based Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) computer network, depriving it of software updates and other data. The US could insert some malicious code to disable the aircraft even if they are transferred and based in Turkey in 2020 as planned.

US officials don’t shy away from open statements about their intentions to exert pressure and prevent other countries from buying Russian weapons.

"I would work with our allies to dissuade them, or encourage them, to avoid military purchases that would be potentially sanctionable," said David Schenker, the nominee for assistant secretary of state for Near Eastern affairs, at his Senate confirmation hearing on June 14.

"In other words, I would tell Saudi Arabia not to do it," he explained. Saudi Arabia and Qatar are in talks with Moscow to buy the S-400.

According to UAWire, The US State Department's Office of Cooperative Threat Reduction has announced a tender for the monitoring of open-source information about arms deals involving the Russian Federation and the CIS countries. That data will be collected in Russian, English, Arabic, Chinese, Farsi, Urdu, and several other languages. The information will be used for decision-making and planning sanctions against foreign states.

So far, the policy of twisting arms has failed. Demand for Russian arms is booming in the Middle East and Africa. Just a few days ago, one of Iraq’s armored brigades swapped out its American-made M1 Abrams tanks for new Russian T-90s. Last year, Russia and Iraq signed a huge arms deal.

Unfazed by the US lawmakers’ stance, Ankara remains all set to go ahead with the purchase of the S-400 from Moscow. If the deal is blocked it will find an alternative, such as Russia’s Su-57 jet, or Turkey could produce an aircraft of its own, as part of its indigenous TFX stealth fighter program.

India has recently been warned against buying the Russian S-400. If it does, a ban will be put in place on sharing sensitive American military technology with Delhi, which is refusing to back down under pressure.

A deal is not always what one may think it is. A deal signed with the US is a special case because there are strings attached, which cannot be found in the text and are not mentioned during the negotiations. All of a sudden a partner finds out that there is a caveat that goes without saying. One may sign a deal and be naive enough to take it at face value, only to find out later that it will not be valid if certain unwritten conditions are not met. If you cooperate with another country without US approval, like Turkey does, you don’t get what you are entitled to under the terms of that agreement. Buy American, they say, but if you make a deal with Russia, like India wants to do, the access to the best technology the US has is going to be cut off.

Congress has offered a lesson to those who cooperate with America. They should remember that whatever they may sign with Washington cannot be taken for granted. US lawmakers can change everything to their heart’s content at any time they wish. There is nothing worse than an unreliable partner. And that’s what America is.


Joe Trader Gen. Ripper Tue, 06/26/2018 - 02:21 Permalink

Kick Turkey out of NATO and build a massive concrete wall on its *current* border with Greece!


LOL @ Tyler --- where to start, Turkey's clearly moving closer to Russia, but besides that is making a lot of aggressive comments towards the U.S. and Europeans... So.. this is a different game - it's not like contract law which is applicable to real estate transactions for example - this is about protecting military technology away from a country pivoting away from us, absolutely the U.S. should toss those promises out the window.

How come tyler doesn't criticize turkey for turning on the US and breaking *its* promises to the U.S. & NATO? "tyler" has found a way to profit off of fictional pro-russian narratives, but get real, you don't even try to hide the bias and anti-US spin to all your arguments, very much like the fake news CNN

and besides a massive space, it's very tempting to write things completely against this website's propaganda, get a bunch of down votes - only to later edit it with a statement that regurgitates your spin LOL

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philipat Four chan Tue, 06/26/2018 - 04:16 Permalink

And presumably, because the US is the one reneging on a signed contract, Turkey will get back its deposits also.

As things turned out, the F-35 is, well a turkey, so Turkey must be absolutely delighted with this because they can now buy far better Russian jets for a fraction of the price. This means they also have no fears that the next time the US decides to sanction Turkey all spare parts and maintenance inputs would be cut off (the usual US action) leaving the few F-35's that are actually capable of flying at any time on the ground as expensive ornaments.

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LaugherNYC bluez Tue, 06/26/2018 - 12:08 Permalink

I love the trollosphere’s rote repetition of their cant “The F-35 is junk.”

Ever since I was a little boy doing “duck and cover” drills in grade school, the Russian propaganda machine pumped out the story that US tech and arms were junk that the Soviet would best.

The Russians were quite good at making fighters with primitive electronics function at a high level - they actually had vacuum tube radio and radar tech in the cockpit! But, at the extreme levels of engagement, they were quite useless.

When the F-14, 15, 16, 18 and 22 came out of development, the blather was exactly the same...

”The US F-14 is a monstrous machine, far too ponderous in the air, large and heavy to be adapted to carrier use, as proven by repeated aborted training landings, and several crashes resulting in pilot ejections. Designers are going back to the board to engineer a smaller, more nimble air superiority fighter and escort for Navy carriers, as the F-14 seems destined to be remembered as a very expensive lesson that the US defense complex foisted off on taxpayers. Coming on the heels of the collapsed F-111B program, the Tomcat looks like yet another disaster ...”.   Excerpted from ‘independent’ media 1972


And the F-22 likewise:

”The F-22 is a piece of junk! My uncle was a senior maintenance engineer on the F-15, and he says the F-22 is pure garbage, with parts falling off, and it can’t fly in bad weather. It’s stealth is ruined by rain or moisture in the air...” typical posting...2009-12

”The F-22 is accepted as the best fighter aircraft in the world, with allies clamoring for the craft...”  2014



And today, every test pilot flying the production F-35 call it the best handling, best fighting ship in the sky. Taking lessons learned from training in Japan and Norway (including a data scandal in which the US was covertly collecting data) the fighter has been modded and software updated.


This myth that countries are “arm twisted” into buying US fighters is just funny. Everyone who has bet against US fighters has lost that bet over and over.

US tech is generally so advanced and so robust once it is settled that it lasts for generations. That F-14 was so shitty that it is still flying in client states and still virtually unbeatable 40 years later.

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JohninMK Four Star Tue, 06/26/2018 - 05:44 Permalink

I see this as a huge fail by Lockheed Martin's F-35 lobbying team who should probably be fired as they were clearly not applying funds in the right places or the right amounts.

Did they not explain that if this applied to F-35 parts that it will potentially cause huge disruption to F-35 production as L-M desperately search for replacement manufacturers and go through extensive R&D and product testing with the new ones? These are not simple parts either, they include complex composite panels like centre sections and skins built to extremely high standards.

This applies to Pratt & Whitney as well, as they have a joint owned plant in Turkey making engine parts for the F-35's engine (which is single source).

On top of course of the $10B+ order cancellation and loss of future revenue stream.

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Victor von Doom Joe Trader Tue, 06/26/2018 - 03:42 Permalink

Why doesn't Tyler shitcan those that spin away from the US? 

He's not the one printing money like a mad cunt, relying on "reserve currency status" to conduct their trade in effect, for free.

That's not necessarily pro Russian - it's anti US - and with just cause.


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LaugherNYC Freddie Tue, 06/26/2018 - 12:16 Permalink

Yeah... lol

lets see what a piece of junk the f-35 is when it starts engaging enemy all over the world.

You trolls are idiots. Just because its overpriced doesnt mean it’s junk. Like a McLaren or a Veyron... the best ain’t cheap

The f-35 has already surpassed expectations, and proved itself as an air superiority fighter - despite not being designed exclusively for this purpose, by SKILLED pilots in Norway and Japan. After trials, and adaptation, the F-35 was taking out 5 to 7 opposition F-16 and F-18s in dogfights. It’s tech and stores capacity make it a tough opponent, and its handling and stealth make it a MONSTER.

I look forward to watching the smoke trails of MiGs and whatever else gets thrown at this thing, as they auger in post-engagement.

”There is nothing in the sky, anywhere, that I would want to be sitting in against this thing in the hands of a skilled driver...”

Norway’s senior fighter test and instructor pilot after 2017 dogfighting exercises.


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Hoffman Lenz Tue, 06/26/2018 - 02:18 Permalink

US Senate Bans Sale Of F-35s To Turkey: Dealing With An Unreliable Partner

should read:

US Senate Bans Sale Of Turkeys To Turkey: Dealing With An Unreliable Partner

Oldguy05 Tue, 06/26/2018 - 02:23 Permalink

Yep. So let's just arm Turkey too! They're pivoting from NATO (a dinosaur) and turning to our arch nemesis Russia!(I'm not scairt)

But really. I wouldn't sell them a howitzer shell. Erdogan wants to rule a new caliphate. Like we wouldn't come up against that in the future? I'm tired of our country selling weapons to those that will use them against our children that for whatever reason, joined our military. Even if those weapons suck. Fvck the MIC!

Oldguy05 Oldguy05 Tue, 06/26/2018 - 17:18 Permalink

WTF guys? You trust Turkey? Fvck them! Erdogan wants to be the head raghead of the world. ...and the MIC sucks. I've got a step-step son in army logistics going on 20 years. Great guy. 4 tours between Iraqyouup and Shitganistan. Now trains others. Can't wait to see him retire and get out of the Rat (line) Race.

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Meyer Bauer Tue, 06/26/2018 - 02:30 Permalink

This is great news for Turkey once they receive their deposit back from the kike Americans. That plane can't even fly in a straight line. Much better off to buy 300 SU35s for less than the cost of 30 F(faggot) 35s. Too funny.

slvrizgold Tue, 06/26/2018 - 02:46 Permalink

Since when do they stop arming people who are officially not our allies? Such as al-CIAda, drug cartels, and ISIS. The (((Globalists))) never saw a war they didn't like, and revel in piles of dead Goyim.

Mike Rotsch Tue, 06/26/2018 - 03:10 Permalink

Not surprising - ever since the EU made it clear that Turkey wouldn't be joining them, they've been sucking Russia's tits, and suddenly became anti-American.

If you're going to be anti-American, we're going to be anti-you.  Cause and effect.

Neochrome Tue, 06/26/2018 - 03:12 Permalink


Indian Giver

Someone who makes a deal/plan/promise or gives a gift to someone. Then, when it is at the other persons advantage/gets what they want/needs to go back on what they said in order to get what they want, without regard to the other party, immediately goes back on their word/promise or takes back whatever was given and leaves the other person completely fucked

John: "i don't care you can have the car it's a piece of shit" 
Chris: "wow! thanks i really need this car to get to work" 
a few weeks later after chris fixes up the car 
John: "yeah i'm gonna need that car back" 
Chris: "but you gave it to me" 
John: "yea well it's still in my name, i can call the authorities or you can just give it back to me. Either way it's going to be parked at my house tonight." 
Chris: John is such a bitch ass indian giver i'm gonna scalp that motherfucker in front of his kids

same2u Tue, 06/26/2018 - 03:24 Permalink

It's getting pretty boring in military aviation. We used to be able to build new models every few years. NOW it takes like 20 years. In the name of savings and efficiency we try build an airplane like the F-35 to satisfy an almost impossible number of requirements, then we wonder why it turns out to be filled with so many delays, corruption and way over budget...

Manipuflation Tue, 06/26/2018 - 03:31 Permalink

Heard the planes are not that good anyway.  If true, then why are we still building them?  If the engine is so good then why the upgrades for cooling problems?  Shitty airframe design?  Just plain shit to begin with?