Raúl Ilargi Meijer: NATO Is A Con Game

Authored by Raul Ilargi Meijer via The Automatic Earth blog,

Okay, well, Trump did it again. Antagonizing allies. This time it was Germany that took the main hit, over the fact that it pays Russia billions of dollars for oil and gas while relying on the US for its defense … against Russia. And yes, that is a strange situation. But it’s by no means the only angle to the story. There are many more.

For one thing, The US has by far the largest military industry. So it makes a lot of money off the billions already spent by NATO partners on weaponry. Of course Raytheon, Boeing et al would like to see them spend more. But once they would have done that, they would clamor for even more after.

At some point one must ask how much should really be spent. How much is enough, how much is necessary. The military-industrial complex (MIC) has every reason to make the threat posed by ‘enemies’ as big as they possibly can. So knowing that, we must take media reports on this threat with tons of salt.

And that is not easy. Because the MIC has great influence in politics and the media. But we can turn to some numbers. According to GlobalFirePower, the US in 2018 will spend $647 billion on its military, while Russia is to spend a full $600 billion less, at $47 billion. And the US Senate has already voted in a $82 billion boost recently.

There are other numbers out there that suggest Russia spends $60 billion, but even then. If Moscow spends just 10% of the US, and much less than that once all NATO members’ expenditure is included, how much of a threat can Russia realistically be to NATO?

Sure, I’ve said it before, Russia makes weapons to defend itself, while America makes them to make money, which makes the latter much less efficient, but it should be glaringly obvious that the Russia threat is being blown out of all proportions.

Problem with that is that European nations for some reason love playing the threat card as much as America does. After all, Britain, France and Germany have major weapons manufacturers, too. So they’re all stuck. The Baltic nations clamor for more US protection, so does Sweden, Merkel re-focused on Putin just days ago, the game must go on.

Another way to look at this is to note that UD GDP in 2017 according to the IMF was $19.3 trillion, while Russia’s was $1.5 trillion. NATO members Germany France, Britain, Italy and France all have substantially higher GDP than Russia as well. European Union GDP was $17.3 trillion in 2017.

If this economically weak Russia were really such a threat to NATO, they would be using their funds so much better and smarter than anyone else, we’d all better start waving white flags right now. And seek their help, because that sort of efficiency, in both economics and defense, would seem to be exactly what we need in our debt-ridden nations.

The solution to the problems Trump indicated this morning is not for Germany et al to spend more on NATO and their military in general, but for the US to spend less. Much less. Because the Russian threat is a hoax that serves the interests of the MIC, the politicians and the media.

And because America has much better purposes to spend its money on. And because we would all be a lot safer if this absurd theater were closed. To reiterate: developments in weapons technology, for instance hypersonic rocket systems make most other weapons systems obsolete. Which is obviously a big threat to the MIC.

Russia attacking NATO makes as much sense as NATO attacking Russia: none whatsoever. Unwinnable. Russia attacking Germany and other European countries, which buy its oil and gas, makes no sense because it would then lose those revenues. From that point of view, European dependence on Russian energy is even a peacemaker, because it benefits both sides.

Can any of the Russiagate things be true? Of course, Russia has ‘bad’ elements seeking to influence matters abroad. Just like the US does, and France, Britain, Germany, finish the list and color the pictures. How about the UK poisoning stories? That’s a really wild one. Russia had no reason to poison a long-lost double spy they themselves let go free years ago, not at a time when a successful World Cup beckoned.

342 diplomats expelled and risking the honored tradition of exchanging spies and double agents from time to time. Not in Moscow’s interest at all. Britain, though, had, and has, much to gain from the case. As long as its people, and its allies, remain gullible enough to swallow the poisoned narrative. Clue: both poisonings, if they are real, occurred mere miles from Porton Down, Britain’s main chemical weapons lab.

And c’mon, if Putin wants his country strong and independent, the last thing he would do is to risk his oil and gas contracts with Europe. They’re simply too important, economically and politically. Trump may want some of that action for the US, understandably, but for now US LNG can’t compete with Russian pipelines. Simple as that.

Let’s hope Trump and Putin can talk sense in 5 days. There’s a lot hanging on it. Let’s hope Trump gets his head out of NATO’s and the US and EU Deep State’s asses in time. There’s no America First or Make America Great Again to be found in those dark places. It’s time to clear the air and talk. America should always talk to Russia.

Funny thing is, the more sanctions are declared on Russia, the stronger it becomes, because it has to learn and adapt to self-sufficiency. Want to weaken Russia? Make it depend on your trade with it, as opposed to cut off that trade. Well, too late now, they won’t trust another western voice anymore for many years. And we’re too weak to fight them. Not that we should want to anyway.

We’re all captive to people who want us to believe we’re still stuck in the last century, because that is their over-luxurious meal ticket. But it’s all imaginary, it’s an entirely made-up narrative. NATO is a con game.


. . . _ _ _ . . . Wed, 07/11/2018 - 23:47 Permalink

NATO is definitely obsolete, but if they want NATO gone, what do they want to replace it with?
A Euro-army?
A UN peace-keeping force?
Marauding leftists?


Military spending should be capped, by law... except in times of war.
On second thought, never mind; the US is always at war with someone.

Frilton Miedman Taint Boil Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:07 Permalink

Russia is going to attack Georgia?...for what?...Russia is going to attack Crimea?...for what?....Russia attacked America?...for...what?

Divide and conquer, but as we speak, both houses have unanimously contradicted Trump's push for Putin's agenda against NATO and his trade wars,  Britain is likely to overturn brexit, the world has caught on and the backfire for Putin will be excruciating.

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the phantom Frilton Miedman Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:19 Permalink

Georgia invaded South Ossetia and killed Russian peacekeepers (you have it exactly backwards)... and got their asses handed to them promptly.  Remind me how many people died when Russia "attacked" Crimea?  Ohhh, that's right, there are mostly Russians there, which voted for a return to the motherland.  If it were otherwise you would see blood on the streets like in the West Bank, as that would be an occupation.  Was there an coup of a democratically elected gov't in Ukraine that caused Crimea to return to Russia?  Think before you type, dumbass.

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Big Creek Rising powow Thu, 07/12/2018 - 08:41 Permalink

There are over 4000 NATO “diplomats” making huge salaries with cushie perqs and pensions for life. Spawned at elite universities, the come thru revolving doors from the various state departments and the UN, to plan and negotiate arcane points of diplomacy that you nor I could fathom ( e.g. how many hours are spent by staff developing the weekly reports and monthly updates for NATOs sustainability program?).

these are our betters, so shut up and do what they say.

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Singelguy the phantom Thu, 07/12/2018 - 05:48 Permalink

+100 phantom. I am so sick and tired of the “invaded and occupied Crimea” narrative. Victiria (fuck the EU) Nuland orchestrated the coup in Kiev which ignited the chain of events leading to the people of Crimea voting with an overwhelming majority to rejoin Russia, which by the way, had been part of Russia since the time of Catherine the Great until the 1950’s when Kruschev just gave it to Ukraine in a drunken stupor. What was democratic about that? Where was the outcry then? The whole thing is just an excuse to bully Russia. 

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philipat . . . _ _ _ . . . Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:05 Permalink

Spot on article.
Europe doesn't have any external threats so who needs NATO? Europe's biggest security threat at present is the "refugee" hordes being shipped in by Soros as a result of mass displacement caused by all the stupid US wars in the ME. Russia was the largest consumer market in Europe and is a natural trading partner for Europe. It is only not so as result of vassalage to the US not any threat from Putin who, given half the chance, would establish normal and harmonious relations with Europe, including water-tight security Treaties. Europe needs to take the opportunity to tell the US to go fuck itself.

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the phantom philipat Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:11 Permalink

Name 1 country where Russia would strategically benefit from invading.  Ukraine?  hahahaha... they can barely turn the lights on.  Any of the Baltics?  And do what with them exactly?  Germany/France/Sweden?  It's so dumb it laughable.  You don't need to replace NATO, you need to eliminate NATO.  Its time passed 27 years ago at best.

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cankles' server the phantom Thu, 07/12/2018 - 02:20 Permalink

Russia's got more land than they can use.  That's why they're taking in 15,000 white south african farmers who had their farms taken from them so that they can farm the thousands of hectares of unused farmland.  It's also why Russia is leasing large swaths of land in Siberia to China on 50 year terms.  China obviously needs a place for people and growing food.

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wisehiney Wed, 07/11/2018 - 23:57 Permalink

Raul, the socialist with the cool Italian name.

Only problem is, 

The other Raul I now is a fucking insane Gunsmith.

Italian immigrant.

Capitalist Entrepeneur.

And did I say fucking Insane Fucking Gunsmith.

Fuck you ilargi.

He hates commies.

And you still suck their dicks.


Did I forget to say Fuck You?

Little meijer fag.

Albertarocks Wed, 07/11/2018 - 23:58 Permalink

"The solution to the problems Trump indicated this morning is not for Germany et al to spend more on NATO and their military in general, but for the US to spend less. Much less. Because the Russian threat is a hoax that serves the interests of the MIC, the politicians and the media."


Bravo!  That is exactly my first reaction when I read the story earlier about Trump demanding that everybody "chip in more money".  Fuck that!  The US is spending enough on their military to pay off every residential mortgage in the entire country.  Enough already... especially in light of the fact that the USA wouldn't even have any enemies if they'd just stop bombing countries for no fuken reason.  And Russia is no more threat to the US and the rest of the world than Jamaica is.  Russia just wants to get along in a global community of friends where business can be done to the benefit of all.  Other than that they want to be left alone... so fucken leave them alone and cut the military expenses by 70%..

Singelguy Albertarocks Thu, 07/12/2018 - 05:57 Permalink

Trump knows that the other NATO members don’t have the money to boost their defense spending to 2% of GDP. Once he leaves, the other members will discuss among themselves and come to the conclusion that it just isn’t worth it. They need the money to support the invading Muslim and African hoardes. NATO will be dissolved just what Trump wanted in the first place.

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max_is_leering Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:02 Permalink

we've been conned, hood-winked, bamboozled folks... the western pols, military gens and corporate shills are nothing if not a group of sheisters, charlatans and carnival barkers... the biggest con ever and we gladly PAY for it!!!... shit, we even ask for more... can I have seconds Sir?!?

Golden Showers Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:02 Permalink

Note the inversion in that NATO / OTAN poster.

It's not mirror image, but backwards. For people who read right to left. For convieniance and inclusion. It would be unfair to make anyone re-cognize 4 whole letters in seraph font, especially high level statespeople.

Fuck Nato. Harry S. Truman got us in. And what was Ike talking about off the top of his head? Most recent and memorable?

US needs NATO about as much as the NEA or the EPA. Or the APE or the AEN. In case you can't read.

Graph Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:04 Permalink

"Pay 2% Of GDP IMMEDIATELY" Or Even 4%....OR ? 

I wish this sentence from previous ZH post about NATO had more definite,

like what happens if they do not fork out the money?

You know where I am getting to.

MonsterSchmuck Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:09 Permalink

True. It’s just Spy Vs Spy shit to keep the sheeple scared and happily on the hook paying off endless weapons systems making the mic owners super rich. Debt slaves we are all. Green energy is the same damn con. 

VW Nerd MonsterSchmuck Thu, 07/12/2018 - 09:01 Permalink

Yes sir, a con indeed.  Like the green energy con, A cure for cancer would be bad for business for the MIC (Medical Industrial Complex).  And peace, the loss of a boogie man (Russia, terrorism), would be bad for the MIC (Military Industrial Complex).  So few people are aware of the psy-ops that controls their perception of reality.  I hope more people start thinking about this.

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ArthurDaley-Ol… Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:21 Permalink

Russia never invades. Gee what short memories do we have? Wasn't it Maxine Waters who told us all that Russia invaded Korea or was it Crimea?

I love Trump and when you a German Air force with 180 Eurojet fighters and only 4 of them are operational I'm sorry Germany needs to step up to the plate. Or does Germany just want tariff free access to the USA as end users want to buy luxury German cars? #SorryNoFreeLunch

ArthurDaley-Ol… opport.knocks Thu, 07/12/2018 - 00:57 Permalink

Hey Libtard, that's why Germany has an effing trade surplus with the USA.. You're full of it..


In dollar value, the U.S. trade deficit with Germany ranks third biggest of any country. Only China ($347 billion) and Japan ($69 billion) had bigger trade deficits in 2016. Mexico ($63 billion) was not far behind.

& put aside the trade deficit for a minute, if there's a run on the USD (which is possible because of the trade deficits, like there's been a run on the Zimbabwe dollar) then everyone gets screwed. & that includes your 'effing leftist bank account too.

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